Posts by Latin assassin from Manhattan

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Ever Met A Guy/Girl At A JW Convention?

have you ever met a single guy/girl at a jw convention, and thought so highly of him/her until you really found out what they were like?

Latin assassin from Manhattan

Have you ever met a single guy/girl at a JW convention, and thought so highly of him/her until you really found out what they were like?

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Can a J-Dub conduct a Bible study without a WTS publication?

by Latin assassin from Manhattan in

if j-dubs claim to be the authority on bible literacy and teaching, then why can't they conduct a bible study or preach without a wts publication?

if i claimed to be an authority on shakespeare during a conversation with a friend, would i pull out a book written by someone else that explained it?

how does that prove that i understand shakespeares work?

Latin assassin from Manhattan

If J-Dubs claim to be the authority on Bible literacy and teaching, then why can't they conduct a Bible study or preach without a WTS publication?

Consider this:

If I claimed to be an authority on Shakespeare during a conversation with a friend, would I pull out a book written by someone else that explained it? How does that prove that I understand Shakespeares work?

If I were at a job interview or at a career networking party, and claimed to be proficient with computers, would I pull out a book that explains how computer software works?

Have you ever seen a university professor spend the entire lecture reading from a third party publication?

Has anyone noticed how the 'Reasoning' book is always used as a parachute when someone at the door knows more about the Bible than a J-Dub? If the org claims to be doing such a great job of teaching it's followers about the Bible, why do they carry this book during field service?

It would be interesting to find out just how many of the millions that go into field service, can conduct a Bible study, or even discuss a Bible topic without the use of a publication. My opinion is that J-Dubs are just highly trained salespeople, not Bible teachers.

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What If Jehovah's Witnesses Are Right?

by shamus in

the "what if" thing comes to mind... no matter how much i strongly believe that they are not, what if armageddon happened tomorrow and they were correct?

would you have any sorrow for being wrong???.

i, personally would not.

Latin assassin from Manhattan

The fact of the matter is that Armageddon will not happen in our lifetime. The WTS has arranged their interpretations over the last 10 years to give us the impression that the end will not occur during our generation.

The WTS's belief that the U.N. will someday destroy false religion is no closer to reality now than it was 50 years ago. WIth the exception of 9/11 and the war on terrorism, things are pretty much the same. It's not like terrorism in the name of God/country has just appeared. Didn't the U.K. have the same problem with IRA back in the 70s-80s?

Current events is no indicator of where we are in God's plans and certainly not the WTS.

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Let Us Create A True Religion...

by Latin assassin from Manhattan in

the wts feels that they are the true religion because they place tons of literature based on their own interpretations and because they show true christian love for one another.

this forum is testimony to the validity of their cause so i won't bother to repeat the obvious.

but if a true religion were to exist, i belive it shoud be based on the following:

Latin assassin from Manhattan

Gently Feral,

Thanks for the link, I never knew what the Unitarians stood for until I saw this. It's very interesting so you can be sure I'll look into it further. Thanks!

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The Palestinian Struggle

by Hamas in

for those that are interested, here is a documentary i recorded following events in israel.

i am still awaiting the documentary from occupation 101 (www.occupation101.com).

thankyou for your time.

Latin assassin from Manhattan

Hamas:

Do you think that U.N. peacekeepers might help? I think this might be the only solution. Until now, I can't understand why they haven't been sent to the Isreali/Palestinian zones of conflict, but it's about time that a third party get in the middle.

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Let Us Create A True Religion...

by Latin assassin from Manhattan in

the wts feels that they are the true religion because they place tons of literature based on their own interpretations and because they show true christian love for one another.

this forum is testimony to the validity of their cause so i won't bother to repeat the obvious.

but if a true religion were to exist, i belive it shoud be based on the following:

Latin assassin from Manhattan

Gopher,

I agree with you on some of your points. But how much control does an organization like the one I described really need? After all, our goal would be to address the practical needs of the communities and needs of our members. We wouldn't be trying to brainwash the world with useless theories.

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Let Us Create A True Religion...

by Latin assassin from Manhattan in

the wts feels that they are the true religion because they place tons of literature based on their own interpretations and because they show true christian love for one another.

this forum is testimony to the validity of their cause so i won't bother to repeat the obvious.

but if a true religion were to exist, i belive it shoud be based on the following:

Latin assassin from Manhattan

Elsewhere,

You gotta admit, it does make better sense than what the WTS has in mind.

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Let Us Create A True Religion...

by Latin assassin from Manhattan in

the wts feels that they are the true religion because they place tons of literature based on their own interpretations and because they show true christian love for one another.

this forum is testimony to the validity of their cause so i won't bother to repeat the obvious.

but if a true religion were to exist, i belive it shoud be based on the following:

Latin assassin from Manhattan

Blondie,

I'm not quite sure what you mean. But, my post was meant to start a discussion on what a true religion should do as opposed to what the WTS does with their definition of this term.

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Let Us Create A True Religion...

by Latin assassin from Manhattan in

the wts feels that they are the true religion because they place tons of literature based on their own interpretations and because they show true christian love for one another.

this forum is testimony to the validity of their cause so i won't bother to repeat the obvious.

but if a true religion were to exist, i belive it shoud be based on the following:

Latin assassin from Manhattan

The WTS feels that they are the true religion because they place tons of literature based on their own interpretations and because they show true Christian love for one another. This forum is testimony to the validity of their cause so I won't bother to repeat the obvious.

But if a true religion were to exist, I belive it shoud be based on the following:

1) The development of the human being.

- Helping it's members improve their lives not just in a spiritual sense, but also in a secular way by promoting education and self improvement at all levels. By educating it's members, a true religion can produce people who are of true value to their communities - instead of sending brainwashed door-knockers and-kid touchers into the world.

2) Showing their true love of God and humanity by performing acts of charity that truly matter.

- Even Jesus performed real acts of kindness to humans, he fed people, and cured the sick. He didn't just spend all of his time 'talking' about the kindgom to come. A true religion should take the lead in humanitarian projects. It should not build it's reputation on publications full of misinterpretations.

3) A true religion should encourage Bible literacy, but should leave the interpretations and predictions to God and Jesus.

- A true religion should promote the hope that God has placed before mankind, but it should avoid predictions and interpretations. It is enough to know that Jesus is the Son of God and that Satan is their opposer and ours. The Bible was not created as an enigmatic source of frustration. It was written to provide us with a clear and simple hope - that we can all live again in a better world by having faith in God and the sacrifice of His Son.

- A true religion should also promote the open and honest discussion of Bible topics but should avoid dogmatic doctrines. Religous doctrine should apply only in the most practical and reasonable sense.

4) True religion should avoid using rank and lofty 'class systems' to govern itself.

- It is possible for a religous organization to govern itself if the lead is taken by men and women who are well educated, responsible, and have shown their love of mankind and of God through their works and fine ethic both in and out of the home. These members can be elected from within the congregation. Unlike the so-called 'governing body' of the WTS, these members will use their talents to help promote a safe, diverse, and productive environment so that all can participate in making this world a better place.

5) Those who take the lead will also promote the well being of it's youth at all levels.

- Children and teenagers will be taught to become physically and morally fit. The family bond will be strengthened by teaching parents to engage in constructive activities with their children, as opposed to leaving them in the wandering hands of a 'bible teacher'. Education and cultural awareness will aslo be of paramount importance to our youth. Wherever outside intervention is necessary to protect the welfare of a child, it will be used without exception.

6) Charitable projects will be nonprofit in origin. All proceeds will be used to address the needs of the local community.

- The sale of publications will not be forced upon our members nor allowed. If any funding is needed, it will be obtain through legal channels and it's proceeds will be used to address the needs of the local community. Our members will not be exploited as 'publishers' or distribution outlets. Their minds and their hearts will be employed in a dignified and honorable manner by helping others the way God truly intended.

7) Voting in political elections will be allowed. Military service will be left to the conscious of it's members.

- Until God bring his kingdom to earth, our members will be allowed to vote in recognition of the fact that governments have the right to maintain the good order and welfare of it's citizens as stated in the Bible. Voting is nothing more than supporting the decision making process of it's citizens - not the rule of Satan. It is the belief of this writer that Satan rules where chaos and religous tryrants are present. Although Democracy is imperfect, it is the only alternative we have until God's kingdom is restored on earth.

- Furthermore, all of our members have the right to defend themselves, their family, their way of life. Just as you would call a policeman to protect you from a rapist, or a thief, a soldier is also called upon to protect the needs of the population as a whole. It is up to the individual member to decide if military service is appropriate for him or her.

If you have any thoughts on this, or would like add to this please let me know. Perhaps you can help me come up with a name for this?

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New President of the Org

by Noumenon in

hi - can someone give me a run-down on the new president of the wts since milton henschel's death, ie, age, background, etc.

is he a member of the gb?

no doubt a lot of threads already about this, so apologies if this is already been covered numerous times b4.. ta

Latin assassin from Manhattan

Amazing,

I thought the same thing when I heard of the sale of their Brooklyn real estate. Why else would a corporate sell such a valuable asset that only increases in worth? I'm pretty sure that everything will be moved to their Patterson site, there has been alot of expansion there in the past decade. They even support themselves agriculturally there.